clay

wb services aren;t really that webby
EDI+

smenatics are A HARD PORBLEM
we need a new defn of local in a network world

differnt kinds of context horzion are created by webservicezs…

iversions of scope… appication can contain mullitple machines, instead of multiple appilcations on one machine

no longer bounded by the firwall

all our defn of bundles, quanta of IT are gone

context horzions

trust horizons (lberty alliance, MSpassport etc.)
coroodination horizons – when do the members of the group go beyond that i can grasp or be comfortbale with
semantic horzioons

whre do standards come from

the powerful human desire to join together in a spirit of cooperation and collaboration (is this local to tech indystry? = “you dont get an oscar for sharing”)

stock ticker examples prevalent… no sematic problems with the problem, yet still out of 5 exmaples, none are interoperable..!

where do standards come from?:
standards bodies
800lb gorrillas (google… unilaterqally does somthing and is big enough to drag everyone with them)
results of standards wars
microsfot (ubiquiotos enough, and high renough up the stack to effect standards)
or
no standards

near-term predicitons (1-2 years)

-two thread
EDI++ (XML + internet instead of proprietary) -big win to b2b but booo-ring…
RPC++ – slower, harder

more standards wars – xml makes it easier to right a standard..
people think they can own stanards… and can build them easier.. so go for stanards landgrab.
therfore stanbrds wars are
-started faster
ended faster, limited domains (fought mainly on just the semantics)
easier on the losers (cos not heaviy investment… just semantics)

rap[id deployment in controlled environments
-intrantes, supply chains, extranets
– in-company standards wars!!!
-everyone is a software publisher (first level of web, everyone was a publisher.. had to take on new responsiblity… now next level rises to level of reposobiluty and support of that of a software house)

slow deployment in large heterogenous environments
-e.g the internet.

q from audience – what about on devices, arfe they controlled envinements?
clay – prediciton still applies “higher in stack these things are towards the suer.. the more semantic coordination problems”

q- will webservices be viewd as us-cenytric standards seting?
clay – like EDI, the UN has created a web services standard – but yes… still tensions, pressures to create counterstandards along trade-bloc/national/linguistic lines.

clay – “remember that it took us twenty years to get to TCP/IP”

creative commons

once – islands of interllectual property protection in a “sea of freedom”

now the opposite is true.

it’s actually worse, because the islands of public domain, but it’s impossible to know where they are!

copyright is broad, growing and applies automatically

this default protection doesn;t always match creators intentions

transactions costs make it difficult to change the default

cretaive commons wants to cultiavte and clarify the public domain.
restoring the balance between te public and the proprietary

help people dedicate their works to the pu blic domain or disclaim some rights

help them communciate those intentions clearly to others

make it easy to identify and locate workls and the ways they may be used

increase the store of works online that people can share clearly

launching web-based application to do this.

why would someone do this

who – scolars, artists, musicians filmakaers

why – fame fortune freedom

how – public domain dedication / custom licensing

overall goal – increase the store of works online that people can share clearly

it’s very very cool.

lisa rein is demonstrating the web app – clear and easy to follow… fricitonless… y’know… it could take off. let’s hope so. so good to see the good guys doing something amazingly well in cooperation…